Curse

Eevee11 · Feb 17, 2012, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Thank you. Tracking the Corruption HM is much more maneagable now. =)

Averaine Clou · Feb 17, 2012, 01:58 AM // 01:58

What about the UWSC ?
I've heard rumors that mindblades can rupt glyph now ?

The Super Chilli · Feb 17, 2012, 02:17 AM // 02:17

I just tried to do t3, and mindblades were rupting through glyph making it impossible to pop. I was doing a normal t3 with only 3 mindblades, so i think suicides with 10+ is going to be impossible

DRGN · Feb 17, 2012, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Yeah, people in ToA confirming UWSC is stalled now until people find a way around it.

Kinda wonder if this was an intended change. Either they did this on purpose, the AI is using Leech Sig somewhat incorrectly still(from the e-management perspective), or the AI is good enough to "know" that interrupting Glyph will let them interrupt the next skill.

Kunder · Feb 17, 2012, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Possibly the enemy AI is smart enough to know that it never runs out of energy.

HigherMinion · Feb 17, 2012, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Glad UWSC is dead now.

coil · Feb 17, 2012, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by HigherMinion

Glad UWSC is dead now.

you're just setting yourself up for disappointment

Surgo · Feb 17, 2012, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Stéphane Lo Presti

Details are actually on the wiki as Joe Kimmes (Programmer Extraordinaire of the Live Team) said here:

Look at "Ununused skills" and "Misused skills" on this page:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hero_...ted_beha vior

Thank you! Didn't expect a response, ecstatic to have one.

HigherMinion · Feb 17, 2012, 04:23 AM // 04:23

7H Physway has been buffed nicely, but I would like to ask why teardowns weren't put on that list of non-functioning skills. Everyone knows teardowns fail on dervish heroes because they will 1. use it to teardown non-FEs and 2. use them when not enchanted, thus wasting adrenaline.

Martin Alvito · Feb 17, 2012, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

Glad UWSC is dead now.

Ironic that it took an AI update to make the Mindblade changes finally function as intended.

Kiki Go Boom · Feb 17, 2012, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Sin heroes still not executing their chains correctly.

kgptzac · Feb 17, 2012, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Any other significant improvement on melee heroes?

bj91x · Feb 17, 2012, 06:22 AM // 06:22

General AI behavior appears unchanged. For example, they still have same problems against area based AOE spells. In addition, melee heroes still stand still without doing anything if they're body blocked from their target. Another issue that remains the same is if the player attacks a target, heroes will change their target to the player's target even when the player didn't call the target (this causes problems for melee heroes and chain-like skills).

As Anet stated, this seems to only affect hero skill usage for skills listed under "Ununused skills" and "Misused skills". "Limited-use skills" appear to be untouched. Lastly, AI not using dagger chains on recharge isn't affected since these skills aren't listed under the above two categories.

I was hoping that this update fixed general AI behavior issues I listed above. However, it's not a bad update at all. Assassin's Promise is still fairly useless on an Assassin hero since they die so easily. However, it's very useful on other profession heroes. Ritual Lord usage change is also nice (though it's not perfectly used by heroes, of course).

Squishy ftw · Feb 17, 2012, 07:07 AM // 07:07

So does this mean they actually use Aggressive Refrain correctly now?

If so I'll be dusting off some para heros over the weekend.

Swingline · Feb 17, 2012, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Ritual Lord is still unusable. The AI still activates it when using a non binding ritual skill.

Daesu · Feb 17, 2012, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

So does this mean they actually use Aggressive Refrain correctly now?

If so I'll be dusting off some para heros over the weekend.

They seem to use AR correctly now. Para heroes have always been great when used with my para, maybe it has always been my para that is awesome.

Sube · Feb 17, 2012, 09:06 AM // 09:06

So here I spent a bunch of time yesterday trying to get through tracking corruption hm, reading guides, changing builds, equipping heroes (30 plat later)...finally beat it a few hours ago and its only cause they made it easier!

HigherMinion · Feb 17, 2012, 09:43 AM // 09:43

El Oh El. I just went on an UWSC run and died to obs the t3... Hilarious. They were rupting HoS and everything that casts faster than HoS. I guess people will be running this again...

http://www.gwpvx.com/Archive:Team_-_UW_Physway

Will upload pics later.

Xsiriss · Feb 17, 2012, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by Swingline

@Xsiriss: They have been cranking out updates right and left this year and your bitching because you haven't seen the one you want yet?

It's more a case of them not finishing a major one, have you even tried playing ele? Nothing's changed except the choice of elite skills.

Olle · Feb 17, 2012, 10:40 AM // 10:40

So they gave us an update, but are too lazy to tell us what it did?

lol